I can just keep talking for a long time about this.

Okay. And like, as you mentioned, you volunteer your students from San Diego State to Crawford High, what is it like, can you describe that?

So I teach an honors class at San Diego State, and the class includes teaching about refugees around the world. And my students are required to volunteer through the IRC, they either volunteer at Crawford High School, working with students there, or they volunteer at the IRC, tutoring local community college students. For them, like for me, when they start, it's eye-opening, they had no idea City Heights was here, they had no idea that San Diego's home to thousands and thousands of refugees and immigrants, so they are learning a lot of the same things I learned when I started to volunteer a few years ago. For most of them it's an amazing experience, they have to talk to me about it, talk in class about it, they have to write about it, so I know that they are learning, perhaps they are learning more from the students they tutor than the students they tutor are learning from them.

Can you give examples, like what are the stories that they wrote or would tell you?

Sure, so my honors students, most of them come from fairly advantaged families, well-to-do families, they may have traveled a bit, but usually, aside from maybe a news story or two they don't know much about refugees, so when they start to learn the stories of the refugees, especially if they get to work with them one-on-one, they write about such things as how much Americans tend to take what we have for granted, and not appreciate things, in contrast, how much the people coming here don't expect as much, but do appreciate the things they do have a lot more. So, it's a really kind of a different way of looking at life, and how to live one's life and my students try to pick up on that, and hopefully, they tell me they try and apply some of those things after my class is over.